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Radeon HD 7990 Review -- Part 2

We got a few more Tyan chassis in today, so we were finally able to test multiple 7990s in a proper server chassis.

Our setup was simply 4x XFX FX-799A-XNF9 in a Tyan B7015F77V4R, leaving a 2-slot gap in between each card.

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These cards are advertised as being clocked at 950 Mhz core / 1375 Mhz memory, but they actually come out of the box running at 1000 Mhz core / 1500 Mhz memory.

In the Tyan chassis, the cards idle at 27C - 30C. Nice and chilly. This is opposed to 40C at idle in the desktop chassis. So we're off to a good start already -- or are we?

As I mentioned in my previous review, the 7990 only works with Catalyst 13.6 beta. However, I only tested a single card in my last review. I expected everything to be the same with multiple cards, just as it's been for recent previous versions of Catalyst. So you can imagine my surprise when I fired up lite, and saw that it was only using one GPU. You know what this means...

That's right folks, we're back to using dummy plugs!

For some reason, AMD regressed to requiring a monitor be hooked up to each card in order to use it for compute in 13.6. Hopefully this will once again be resolved in 13.7, but for now, I'm glad I kept all my dummy plugs after AMD promised they would no longer be necessary. Filthy liars.

After digging through a stack of boxes to find my vast dummy plug collection, I popped one onto each card and restarted X. Bingo, we now have compute on all 8 GPUs.

So here's the part you've all been waiting for...

What is the speed like? Exactly the same as 8x 7970 Ghz Edition.

What were the temps like? I'll tell you, friends: 75C all day long.

Well not exactly, but damn close. Under full load I saw temps as low as 60C, and a couple times the cards hit 80C, but for the most part, they stayed right in the mid 70s. Which is perfect, that's right where we were hoping to be. Suck it, radix! Image may be NSFW.
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And mind you these cards are overclocked, the temps would be even more acceptable if we ran them at the stock 7970 clocks.

So in summary,

7990 + desktop = bad
7990 + high-end server = fantastic

And don't forget your dummy plugs.

Help with MySql2005 Hash

Hi Everybody,

I got hashes from mysql 2005 on windows xp using Select * from sys.sql_logins. The hashes begin with a 0x100 and then an 8 bit salt and the the hash.

I'm trying to crack using this command "oclHashcat-plus64.exe -m
132 Hashs.txt -a 3 -1 ?a ?1?1?1?1?1?1?1?1" but keep getting "Line-length exception"

I have the hashs stored one line at a time in a text file and cannot find anything online after hours of searching. Is the format of the text file wrong? I just copied directly fro mysql.

Please help.... and thanks

Choosing right card, making estimations

Hi. Im new to cracking.

Im planning to build a budget single gpu pc for gaming-cracking. In future i will add better cards (probably amd 8000/9000 series) and use it for mainly cracking. For now, i cant pay more than 300 usd for it. I have some questions for you.

http://golubev.com/gpuest.htm
How he had done that list? If we look from the viewpoint of ratio comparisons within same family, are they reliable?

How i can make ests of cards that didnt tested anywhere?

How important memory size of cards? How much should be enough?


Which should be better at its price? 7870xt or 7870 direct cu 2? or 7950?

7870XT
Stream Processors: 1536
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814202024

Asus 7870 DC2
Stream Processors: 1280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814121649

7950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814202026

Salted SHA-1 found by Lite but not by Plus

Hi folks, strange issue here...

I am using this input file as sha1($pass.$salt):
4205d56d3102258cc00b5eed8d13886225ebd618:134e012e33e18783de360103c1fb07798df0e1c​f

When I run oclHashcat-lite64, it ils immediately found (password "test"), but it seems to transform the hash:
Code:
oclHashcat-lite64.exe -m 110 C:\hash.txt
(...)
Session.Name...: oclHashcat-lite
Status.........: Cracked
Hash.Target....: 6dd505428c250231ed5e0bc06288138d18d6eb25:134e012e33e18783de360103c1fb07798df0e1c​f
Hash.Type......: sha1($pass.$salt)

However, when I run oclHashcat-plus64 in bruteforce mode, the hash does not go through the same transformation and doesn't get cracked:

Code:
oclHashcat-plus64.exe -a 3 -m 110 C:\hash.txt
(...)
Session.Name...: oclHashcat-plus
Status.........: Running
Input.Mode.....: Mask (?1?2?2?2?2?2)
Hash.Target....: 4205d56d3102258cc00b5eed8d13886225ebd618:134e012e33e18783de360103c1fb07798df0e1c​f
Hash.Type......: sha1($pass.$salt)


What am I doing wrong here? I use the exact same command, except "-a 3" for the "plus" version. Same behaviour when I run "plus" with a dictionary and/or mask.

Thanks for your help!

hashcat v0.46

* changes v0.45 -> v0.46:

We are happy to announce hashcat version 0.46; a major release w/ some new algorithms,
several interesting new features, improvements and some bug fixes

Download here: http://hashcat.net/hashcat/

Some algorithms we added that were not available in cpu hashcat but in oclHashcat:
  • Joomla
  • osCommerce, xt:Commerce
  • md5(unicode($pass).$salt)
  • md5($salt.unicode($pass))
  • Oracle 11g
  • sha1(unicode($pass).$salt)
  • MSSQL(2005)
  • sha1($salt.unicode($pass))
  • Cisco-PIX MD5
  • Samsung Android Password/PIN
Several other new algorithms:
  • Fortigate (FortiOS)
  • OS X v10.8
  • GRUB 2
  • IPMI2 RAKP HMAC-SHA1
  • bcrypt, Blowfish(OpenBSD)
A very important goal of this release was especially to improve speed for some algorithms, like:
  • NTLM: Performance increased by 22% (60 MH/s -> 73 MH/s)
  • sha512crypt: Performance increased by 82% (2010H/s -> 3670H/s)
Note: since we had to rewrite some core parts of cpu hashcat to allow some new features (like longer salts etc),
there might be some slight speed drops for some single hash types. We are aware of some of them and try to improve
them too, but in general this release increases the speed for several algorithms while adding new features.

There are of course also some bug fixes that hopefully are (among others) all in the list below.


Have fun!

Full changelog:
Quote:
type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 11 = Joomla

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 21 = osCommerce, xt:Commerce

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 30 = md5(unicode($pass).$salt)

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 40 = md5($salt.unicode($pass))

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 112 = Oracle 11g

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 130 = sha1(unicode($pass).$salt)

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 132 = MSSQL(2005)

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 140 = sha1($salt.unicode($pass))

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 2400 = Cisco-PIX MD5

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 3200 = bcrypt, Blowfish(OpenBSD)

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 5800 = Samsung Android Password/PIN

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 7000 = Fortigate (FortiOS)

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 7100 = OS X v10.8

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 7200 = GRUB 2

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: added -m 7300 = IPMI2 RAKP HMAC-SHA1

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: make all --outfile-formats similar to oclHashcat, adds new outfile-formats
trac: #99

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: Debug mode: output to stderr instead of stdout
trac: #146

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: New debug mode 3, output word + separator + finding rule
trac: #156

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: more flexible salt length for AIX hashes
trac: #157

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: Allow the usage of external salts (-e) together w/ -m 121 (SMF > 1.1)
trac: #163

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: New switches: --username (ignore username in hash file), --show (cracked), --left (show un-cracked)

type: feature
file: hashcat-cli
desc: Add outfile format reference in help (not-inline)

type: improvement
file: hashcat-cli
desc: mode -m 111 nsldaps: more flexible salt length (0-20 chars)

type: improvement
file: hashcat-cli
desc: mode -m 1000 NTLM: Performance increased by 22% (60 MH/s -> 73 MH/s)

type: improvement
file: hashcat-cli
desc: mode -m 1800 sha512crypt: Allow up to 55 char passwords

type: improvement
file: hashcat-cli
desc: mode -m 1800 sha512crypt: Performance increased by 82% (2010H/s -> 3670H/s)

type: bug
file: hashcat-cli
desc: include salt for hash mode 1722 OS X v10.7 in output

type: bug
file: hashcat-cli
desc: fixed Half MD5 input/output format

type: bug
file: hashcat-cli
desc: fixed MD5(CHAP) output format

type: bug
file: hashcat-cli
desc: expire time (--expire) not showing valid timestamp fixed

type: bug
file: hashcat-cli
desc: don't output salts when --remove is used, but else always output the salts

type: bug
file: hashcat-cli
desc: --remove and single hash cracking should output empty file on success

-m 100 and AVX or XOP build hashcat 0.46 issue

Thank you for the new version of this tool.

Issue at my location with testing sha1 -m 100.

Setup:
AMD 8320 system with Debian Wheezy (Stable) OS.

Try -m 100 (sha1) with both hashcat-cliAVX.bin and hashcat-cliXOP.bin giving wrong output in the pot file

/hashcat-cliAVX.bin --segment-size=3000 --threads=4 -m100 -a 0 -rrules/best64.rule hashfile wordlist
fc02dce7ac4361bb13ef3b4ee541bcb87092fe67:ten_ylf

the hashcat-cli32.bin and hashcat-cli64.bin appeared to give the correct output.
fc02dce7ac4361bb13ef3b4ee541bcb87092fe67:fly_net

It doesnt always just give the reverse plaintext sometimes it is changed.

please could you confirm and/or fix this issue

Custom algorithm

I have a password and the corresponding hash. It is a 32 character hash that looks like md5 but I am positive it is not md5 since no md5 generator generates the correct password. Is there any way to identify the algorithm used if I have the password and hash?

ERROR: clGetDeviceIDs() -1

Hi, i'm using oclHashcat-plus32, and i've been having this error

ERROR: clGetDeviceIDs() -1

i have an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, AMD Catalyst 13.1, and Windows 8

if everyone can help to fix this error, i will thank you.

HMAC-SHA1 need help please!

Hi folks,

I need a little help for recover a HMAC-SHA1 hash value.

I have the hashed value and the (pass)key.
My *.hash file content looks like this (hash:key):
<removed>
and my command line like this:
Code:
hashcat-cli64.exe" -a 0 -m 150 examples
/A0.M0.hash examples/A0.M0.word

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After a half second this comes out in the console:
Code:
Added hashes from file examples/A0.M0.hash: 1 (1 salts)
Activating quick-digest mode for single-hash with salt

NOTE: press enter for status-screen


Input.Mode: Dict (examples/A0.M0.word)
Index.....: 1/1 (segment), 0 (words), 0 (bytes)
Recovered.: 0/1 hashes, 0/1 salts
Speed/sec.: - plains, - words
Progress..: 0/0 (100%)
Running...: --:--:--:--
Estimated.: --:--:--:--

Started: Fri Jun 28 19:08:06 2013
Stopped: Fri Jun 28 19:08:06 2013

What I'm doing wrong?

Please help!

p.s. sorry for my bad english and greetings from germany

Radeon HD8970m

Is AMD Radeon HD8970m good for cracking wpa2 password? Or is there better notebook GPU for cracking passwords?

Thermal compound on GPU?

While reading up on heat issues, I came across the issue that the thermal compound between the CPU and heat sink will go bad over time, and should be replaced periodically.

And that this applies to the GPU, also.

Since people here are likely to be running GPUs nonstop, has anyone had the practice of periodically re-applying thermal paste to their GPUs?

VCL 1.21 with hashcat-plus

Hi, I keep getting "ERROR: clEnqueueNDRangeKernel() -6" on my vcl setup. There are 3 machines with 3 7970 each connected over gigabit ethernet. The broker node has 32gb of ram.

In one of the previous post, epixoip mentioned that it was due to misconfigured network and having cross-routable subnets? In my setup, the broker node has 3 NICs installed and each compute node has a dedicated link to the broker:


broker eth0 172.168.1.1/24 connected to node1=172.168.1.2/24
broker eth1 172.168.2.1/24 connected to node2=172.168.2.2/24
broker eth2 172.168.3.1/24 connected to node3=172.168.3.2/24


I'm using VCL 1.21 with hashcat-plus and catalyst 13.1. Would really appreciate any help!

New build hardware question(s)

Hi everyone,
I try putting together my first build, nothing really fancy like most of the other setups here. Has to be a standard box/tower that runs Windows 8.x and Ubuntu client as dualboot due to job reasons. For my personal pleasure I want to build it ok for GPU-cracking using Ubuntu. No gaming on this machine. I have Macs for 25 yrs use Linux aswell but no experience putting together the hardware parts. I have tried to read all the essential posts here, aswell as the wiki. Her's what I have in mind

Graphic: 1 (yes, just one for now) Sapphire Radeon HD7970 referencedesign (PCI-e, 3GB, GDDR5 Speicher, HDMI)
Thx to dioxide (https://hashcat.net/forum/thread-2387.html) I already have the fun part.

CPU: Intel i5 4430 Quadcore 4x 3GHz (Haswell, 4th generation)
Dont know if Haswell already goes along well.

Mainboard: Asrock B85M-HDS with onboard graphic Intel HD4600 (via Haswell-chip)
Cause for office work onboard video would be more than ok with me, I'd attach the monitor to the onboard video so my Radeon has off time when not crunching.

Box: Be Quiet 530 Watt ATX case USB 3.0
RAM: DDR3-Ram 16GB PC 1600
Drive: 1TB SATA III 7200rpm
DVD RW 22x DL multiformat

I would appreciate any help and/or comments, best regards, vrposter

oclHashcat-plus don't support tesla k20m ?

cudaHashcat-plus v0.13 by atom starting...

Hashes: 6494 total, 1 unique salts, 6494 unique digests
Bitmaps: 16 bits, 65536 entries, 0x0000ffff mask, 262144 bytes
Workload: 256 loops, 80 accel
Watchdog: Temperature abort trigger set to 90c
Watchdog: Temperature retain trigger set to 80c
Device #1: Tesla K20m, 4799MB, 705Mhz, 13MCU
Device #2: Tesla K20m, 4799MB, 705Mhz, 13MCU
Device #3: Tesla K20m, 4799MB, 705Mhz, 13MCU
Device #4: Tesla K20m, 4799MB, 705Mhz, 13MCU
Device #5: Tesla K20m, 4799MB, 705Mhz, 13MCU
Device #6: Tesla K20m, 4799MB, 705Mhz, 13MCU
ERROR: cuMemAlloc() 1


can you help me ? Atom???

only oclHashcat-lite can working...

Hashcat-plus and Hashcat problems

hey guys i was running a sample after installing hashcat-plus and about 8 mins in i got error gpu has reached temp limit is there a way to configure this so it dont shut down and if not i was goin to use the cpu hashcat can you point me to a good tutorial on the regular hashcat i cant seem to find one and can i get some recomendations on how to keep my laptop cool so the gpu wont reach that temp im running bumblebee on a optimus system if that helps i got a hd intel3000 and a geforce 525m all help and responses are greatly appreciated thanks

VirtualCL 1.21

For everyone reporting bugs about VirtualCL 1.21: I have not been able to reproduce your issues. But I have found other issues.

First, VCL 1.21 will work with both plus 0.14 and 0.15, using the installation steps detailed in the wiki. It does not work well with 0.14, but it will at least appear that it is working.

With 0.14, I noticed that with -a 0 it only finds about 1/6th of the plains. Or rather, it seems to think it's finished when it's only 1/6th of the way through. I don't know why. At first I thought it was a driver issue since I'm using 13.6, but it finds all of the passwords locally, so that's clearly not the problem. But, it finds all of the plains in 0.15, so I'm not concerned about it. Just realize that you will probably want to use 0.15.

I also identified a minor bug in VCL 1.21. Well, it's a major bug, but it's easily worked around. It's just a rather annoying workaround.

The bug I have identified is that after running a program with VCL, the broker will hang on to the devices and clCreateContext() will fail with CL_DEVICE_NOT_AVAILABLE. Only workaround is to restart the broker daemon after every pass.

I have engaged MOSIX about this bug, but for the time being, you can automate this workaround with a simple shell function:

Code:
vclHashcat-plus()
{
    /etc/init.d/vcl restart
    sleep 5
    ./vclHashcat-plus64.bin $*
}

As of 0.15b48, vclHashcat-plus64.bin is no longer needed. so if you're using 0.15, replace "vclHashcat-plus64.bin" with "oclHashcat-plus64.bin" in the function.

Just drop that function in your ~/.bashrc and re-source it, then simply invoke the "vclHashcat-plus" function instead of vclHashcat-plus64.bin and all will be well.

If you continue to experience errors:

clCreateContext() -2: manually run "/etc/init.d/vcl restart", wait about 5 seconds, and try again. If you continue to receive this error, restart vcl on the backend as well.

clEnqueueNDRangeKernel() -48: you need to remove your old kernels. Simply run "rm kernels/4098/*.kernel" and try again.

clEnqueueReadBuffer -38: make sure you are using vclHashcat if you're using 0.14. if you receive this error and are using 0.15, let me or atom know.

Good luck!

How fast should my hashcat be running??

I'm running a list of VBulletin < 3.8.5 hashes and just wondering what the speed should be around. Tried to find an average in the wiki pages but had no luck. The ones I did see mostly mention hashes being cracked at the speed in millions and mine is plodding along at 5.3k/s

Now I realize of course that not all hashes, or GPU's, are created equal but does that seem kind of low? Or OK results for a out-of-the-box GTX560? Are there things I can do to increase this speed? I apologize if this has already been covered and a nudge in the right direction would be appreciated.

Thank You

Combining results

Say I had two lists of the same hashes and some were removed on the second list due to being cracked is there a program that can join the lists so that both hashes would ouput like so :

65XXf9823a0XXXXab7c7e7XXXX04c3d4:65XXf9823a0XXXXab7c7e7XXXX04c3d4

or just notice there are duplicates in each file and output them on the same line.

Speed drops down by a half after a few seconds

Hi,

When I run oclHashcat (plus or lite), the two AMD hc7900 GPUs run about at the same speed:

Ater 6s:
Code:
Session.Name...: oclHashcat-lite
Status.........: Running
Hash.Target....: ee98e55f3f62a11697889e502d237d3d
Hash.Type......: NTLM
Time.Started...: Thu Jul 11 12:47:39 2013 (6 secs)
Time.Estimated.: Thu Jul 11 12:50:21 2013 (2 mins, 30 secs)
Plain.Mask.....: ?1?2?2?2?2?2?2?3
Plain.Text.....: **lrz4m$
Plain.Length...: 8
Progress.......: 219414528000/5533380698112 (3.97%)
Speed.GPU.#1...: 17673.5M/s
Speed.GPU.#2...: 17671.4M/s
Speed.GPU.#*...: 35344.9M/s

But after some time, the speed of GPU #1 drops down by a half:

Ater 42s:
Code:
Session.Name...: oclHashcat-lite
Status.........: Aborted
Hash.Target....: ee98e55f3f62a11697889e502d237d3d
Hash.Type......: NTLM
Time.Started...: Thu Jul 11 12:47:39 2013 (42 secs)
Time.Estimated.: Thu Jul 11 12:51:08 2013 (2 mins, 40 secs)
Plain.Mask.....: ?1?2?2?2?2?2?2?3
Plain.Text.....: **585ih7
Plain.Length...: 8
Progress.......: 1415894794240/5533380698112 (25.59%)
Speed.GPU.#1...:  8239.9M/s
Speed.GPU.#2...: 17464.4M/s
Speed.GPU.#*...: 25704.3M/s

I tried playing with the --gpu-temp-retain, --gpu-accel, --gpu-loops switches, but no changes.

I am on 2008 R2 with 2x hd7900.

Any ideas?

Cheers

Nod password hashes

Hello guyz, i'm a newbie in this forum, so maybe my question is not in the right part of the forum, but i could not find any topic which is similar to my problem.

I work for a local government, and we use NOD32 program as an endpoint protection. We have just bought the new licenese and that's why we will have to change the configuration files on those clients whose are not in our local network because these machines cannot connect to our central server to be refreshed.
So to accomplish this, I imported an .xml file which contains the different kinds of parameters and I started skiming over the content of the .xml.

There are two interesting rows in it, one of them contains the username without any encryption, and the next one ( which is not so hard to find) contains the encrypted password.

NOD passwords are usually 10 characters long the combinaton of lowercase letters and numbers which seems to me not long enough to protect a password against hashcracking if the hash type is an easily decryptable one.

Some examples (approximately):

HD 5770
NTLM: number of variations: 3 760 620 109 779 060 ; 12 min
MD5: number of variations: 3 760 620 109 779 060 ; 20 min
HD 5870
NTLM: number of variations: 3 760 620 109 779 060 ; 6 min
MD5: number of variations: 3 760 620 109 779 060 ; 10 min

I deliberately used this older models as a reference.

So finally my question is:

- Does anybody know anything about the hash type of NOD passwords? (it is 27 characters long)
- Have anybody heard about cracked NOD passwords using imported .xml files?

Any comments are appreciated

J



PS: sorry for the grammatical mistakes, english is not my native language
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